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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:12 pm
mtpockets mtpockets: I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.
So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government. So tell me seperatist, how would NL be better off on it's own?
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:16 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: Welcome to Canada Brenda, where many people choose to put Provincial pride over National pride. And also where basically every province and territory is big enough to be it's own country... BC alone is 24 times the country I am from... Canada itself 242...
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:38 pm
Dummy Williams doesn't know oil is only 46 bucks a bbl? Mr have some will soon once again be a have not.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:50 pm
Haven't you heard mtbr? With the $1.5 billion swat the province is already back in 'have not' status. That oughta keep the smugness across Canada at peak levels.
And you seriously think oil will remain at $46 a barrel? What would Alberta do at that rate?
For the uninformed: Danny Williams is no dummy. He still has a personal 88% approval rating in the province and his party has a 71% approval rating. The people recognize a leader when they see one. If only our spineless leader from the west (Hapless Harper) only had half the intestinal fortitude the country would be in a far better place. That lying snake...
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:55 pm
mtpockets mtpockets: Haven't you heard mtbr? With the $1.5 billion swat the province is already back in 'have not' status. That oughta keep the smugness across Canada at peak levels.
And you seriously think oil will remain at $46 a barrel? What would Alberta do at that rate?
For the uninformed: Danny Williams is no dummy. He still has a personal 88% approval rating in the province and his party has a 71% approval rating. The people recognize a leader when they see one. If only our spineless leader from the west (Hapless Harper) only had half the intestinal fortitude the country would be in a far better place. That lying snake... You know if you leave all transfer payments stop right?
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:56 pm
Brenda Brenda: Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: Welcome to Canada Brenda, where many people choose to put Provincial pride over National pride. And also where basically every province and territory is big enough to be it's own country... BC alone is 24 times the country I am from... Canada itself 242... Hence part of the problem...
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:58 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: Brenda Brenda: Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace: Welcome to Canada Brenda, where many people choose to put Provincial pride over National pride. And also where basically every province and territory is big enough to be it's own country... BC alone is 24 times the country I am from... Canada itself 242... Hence part of the problem... The U.S. is almost the same size as us and they have two states seperated from the mainland yet they have almost none of the unity problems we have.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:00 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: mtpockets mtpockets: Haven't you heard mtbr? With the $1.5 billion swat the province is already back in 'have not' status. That oughta keep the smugness across Canada at peak levels.
And you seriously think oil will remain at $46 a barrel? What would Alberta do at that rate?
For the uninformed: Danny Williams is no dummy. He still has a personal 88% approval rating in the province and his party has a 71% approval rating. The people recognize a leader when they see one. If only our spineless leader from the west (Hapless Harper) only had half the intestinal fortitude the country would be in a far better place. That lying snake... You know if you leave all transfer payments stop right? Momma didn't raise no fool son....
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Posts: 11362
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:04 pm
Ottawa ought to stop Regional Developement. Quebec gets $$ and wants to leave, Alberta gets $$ and wants to leave, Newfoundland gets $$ and wants to leave. It's as if they all think they did it themselves when something pans out.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:07 pm
sandorski sandorski: Ottawa ought to stop Regional Developement. Quebec gets $$ and wants to leave, Alberta gets $$ and wants to leave, Newfoundland gets $$ and wants to leave. It's as if they all think they did it themselves when something pans out. Well to be correct, few people in Alberta want to leave.
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Posts: 9956
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:24 pm
$1: The EU doesn't negotiate trade agreements with provinces or federations What about the Russian Federation?
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Posts: 9956
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:26 pm
mtpockets mtpockets: Why should NL put any faith in the federal government to act in the best interest of the province in negotiations with the EU? Past history has shown that in these types of arrangements, NL always (without fail) comes out on the losing end. Do you really think Harper is going to go to bat for NL on the seal ban issue? Do you think Harper and his cronies are going to address the high seafood tariffs on our behalf? I fear that the $1.5 billion clawback made during the latest budget would pale in comparision to the loses we would incur by letting our divisive leader (Harper) negotiate for us.
This might be the first major step in distancing ourselves further from Canada and charting a course of our own. Where do I sign up? Start by signing the sheet saying you no longer want to be a Canadian citizen and ship yourself off to Zambia or something and dream delusions of grandeur for N.L.
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Posts: 9956
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:28 pm
mtpockets mtpockets: I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.
So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government. Strengthen Alberta? LMFAO. Western alienation mean anything to you? Of course not, you're too busy pooping yourself.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:51 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: mtpockets mtpockets: I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.
So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government. So tell me seperatist, how would NL be better off on it's own? Oh where do I begin. There are just so many reasons. I could list any number: control of our resources, keeping our precious people home with their families and friends, stopping the rape and pillage of our island, ending the shady deal of entering Confederation, allowing our workforce to promote and grow our own economy and not that of Alberta or Ontario. Those are noble reasons - but the number one reason - No STEPHEN HARPER or like minded thieves who don't have our best interests at heart. Look, you and I both know this scenario will never play out. These are just the musings of a frustrated citizen who has had it up to here with the goings on from Ottawa over the past number of years. Every time NL has a chance to finally get on it's feet Ottawa manages to bring the province to it's knees once again. And we're supposed to feel warm and fuzzy...screw that.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:52 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: sandorski sandorski: Ottawa ought to stop Regional Developement. Quebec gets $$ and wants to leave, Alberta gets $$ and wants to leave, Newfoundland gets $$ and wants to leave. It's as if they all think they did it themselves when something pans out. Well to be correct, few people in Alberta want to leave. You'd better check your stats on that. The rumblings are louder than you think.
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