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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:44 pm
StuntmanMike StuntmanMike: Excellent idea. My wife wrote the Citizenship test last year when she got her papers. I had a look at it before hand. To be perfectly honest, I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that alot of born and bred, snowmobile riding, hockey fanatic Canucks would have trouble passing it. It asks some basic questions about our system of government, history etc.
So, the system you're proposing would actually favour new immigrants in Scarborough and give them a vote over 3rd and 4th generation Canadians from Bracebridge or Port Coquitlam. Is that really the kind of system you want to promote? Please if you don't know who the candidates are in an election, or who the current Prime Minister is.. or how many Provinces and territories Canada has... and you were born as a 3rd or 4th generation Canadian... well shit, are you a bloody retard? 0:
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:04 pm
I would love it if there was a skill testing question on the ballot. Google has that option now for sending email so why not the same for the vote?
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:27 pm
Back to the topic at hand:
Good for General Powell for doing the right thing. I'd like to see hm get a position in an Obama administration to provide the veteran advice that the new President will need. Hopefully he could use it as a chance for redemption to make up for the lies that Bush and Rove forced him to say in front of the Security Council.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:42 pm
I doubt Powell would go for that.....or at tleast his wife wouldn't. She wasn't crazy about him entering public life the first time.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:17 pm
Well, what McCain needs in response is for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to start endorsing him. 
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:39 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Well, what McCain needs in response is for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to start endorsing him.  lol, the kiss of death  McCain already has endorsments from 4 secs of state, and some 100 Generals, so Powell's endorsement is only show for the short sighted. and I seriously doubt Powell will go anywhere near an Obama administration.
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:46 am
People are starting to look at this as more of a racial thing. Oprah and Powell.. 
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:59 am
i dont disagree with that asesment...
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:45 am
Rush and Pat would agree with you$1: "There is nothing racially obvious about Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama. I have read Colin Powell's comments and he did not at anytime allude to race being a factor in his endorsement. I think what we are seeing is a sense of racial stereotyping of two ostensibly racially transcendent political figures. There has always been a stereotype that all black people will stick together. It seems that this is somewhat in play here, given that they only factor connecting Colin Powell and Barack Obama is race."
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:13 am
Scape Scape: Rush and Pat would agree with you$1: "There is nothing racially obvious about Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama. I have read Colin Powell's comments and he did not at anytime allude to race being a factor in his endorsement. I think what we are seeing is a sense of racial stereotyping of two ostensibly racially transcendent political figures. There has always been a stereotype that all black people will stick together. It seems that this is somewhat in play here, given that they only factor connecting Colin Powell and Barack Obama is race." ok, how about posting Powell endorsing any other super left Liberal WHITE candidate ? or how about some connections between Powell and Obama that dont involve race..
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:16 am
lily lily: Powell gave his reasons for endorsing Obama. Very eloquent ones at that: Colin Powelll Colin Powelll: I'm also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say, and it is permitted to be said. Such things as 'Well you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.' Well the correct answer is 'He is not a Muslim, he's a Christian, he's always been a Christian.' But the really right answer is 'What if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country?' The answer is 'No. That's not America.' Is there something wrong with some 7-year old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she can be president? Yet I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion he's a Muslim and he might be associated with terrorists. This is not the way we should be doing it in America.
I feel strongly about this particular point because of a picture I saw in a magazine. It was a photo-essay about troops who were serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And one picture at the tail end of this photo essay was of a mother in Arlington Cemetery and she had her head on the headstone of her son's grave. And as the picture focused in you can see the writing on the headstone. And it gave his awards, Purple Heart, Bronze Star, showed that he died in Iraq, gave his date of birth, date of death. He was 20 years old. And then at the very top of the headstone, it didn't have a Christian cross, it didn't have a Star of David. It had a crescent and a star of the Islamic faith. And his name was Karim Rashad Sultan Khan. And he was an American, he was born in New Jersey, he was 14 at the time of 9/11 and he waited until he can go serve his counrty and he gave his life. As much as an endorsement of Barack Obama, it is was also a condemnation of Islamophobia. A timely one if you ask me.
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Tokimini
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:09 am
The hell with Obama, Powell should have run himself. I think he would have won with out breaking a sweat. The past three presidential elections I asked for write in ballots and voted for Powell everytime. I have always been puzzeled and disappointed that a man of his obvious worth and commitment to serving his country did not run for public office.
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:14 am
Tokimini Tokimini: The hell with Obama, Powell should have run himself. I think he would have won with out breaking a sweat. The past three presidential elections I asked for write in ballots and voted for Powell everytime. I have always been puzzeled and disappointed that a man of his obvious worth and commitment to serving his country did not run for public office. His wife said no...
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:21 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: lily lily: Powell gave his reasons for endorsing Obama. Very eloquent ones at that: Colin Powelll Colin Powelll: I'm also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say, and it is permitted to be said. Such things as 'Well you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim.' Well the correct answer is 'He is not a Muslim, he's a Christian, he's always been a Christian.' But the really right answer is 'What if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country?' The answer is 'No. That's not America.' Is there something wrong with some 7-year old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she can be president? Yet I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion he's a Muslim and he might be associated with terrorists. This is not the way we should be doing it in America.
I feel strongly about this particular point because of a picture I saw in a magazine. It was a photo-essay about troops who were serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And one picture at the tail end of this photo essay was of a mother in Arlington Cemetery and she had her head on the headstone of her son's grave. And as the picture focused in you can see the writing on the headstone. And it gave his awards, Purple Heart, Bronze Star, showed that he died in Iraq, gave his date of birth, date of death. He was 20 years old. And then at the very top of the headstone, it didn't have a Christian cross, it didn't have a Star of David. It had a crescent and a star of the Islamic faith. And his name was Karim Rashad Sultan Khan. And he was an American, he was born in New Jersey, he was 14 at the time of 9/11 and he waited until he can go serve his counrty and he gave his life. As much as an endorsement of Barack Obama, it is was also a condemnation of Islamophobia. A timely one if you ask me. Yep, I think he stated his case very well. The pitchfork crowd doesn't like it because if they can't make the election about character they have to talk about issues like the economy and McCain knows that dog won't hunt.
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