[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

From what I understood, the idea is to create a school environment where the students aren't made to be the minority and are free from discrimination be it real or imagined.

Overall, the idea is to create an environment where the students can flourish in a place where they are immersed in their own culture.

So you support the notion of separate but equal, eh?

[martin14]

Right, and teaching an Afrocentric system in a 'Eurocentric' country.

$1:

Also, get used to being told that all the best ideas in Western Civilization were "stolen" from blacks and that the best and brightest philosophers of antiquity were all black.

Sophocles, Plato, Aristotle. Ptolemy, etc. - all black.

oh yes, very productive.. very helpful.. perfectly ready to
reintegrate into a multiracial society after being segregated through school..

Canada is a 'Eurocentric' country .. maybe the supporters of this foolishness should get used to that.


Why are these people trying to recreate a little piece of South Africa here ???

[Regina]

So are secondary institutions supposed to recognize this type of schooling and consider it equal to the regular curriculum? Is that how we prepare kids for the real world?

[martin14]

Regina Regina:

So are secondary institutions supposed to recognize this type of schooling and consider it equal to the regular curriculum? Is that how we prepare kids for the real world?

or is it that the supporters of this are convinced that none of these kids can make it that far,

so they have decided to write them off before they get started ???

[Regina]

I think you're right. Seems to me this is a surrender flag rather than anything else. Do they feel it's better to say you've passed high school than to have actually done it?

[BartSimpson]

Regina Regina:

I think you're right. Seems to me this is a surrender flag rather than anything else. Do they feel it's better to say you've passed high school than to have actually done it?

Yes, actually, they do. This is part of the touchy-feely ultra-liberal school of thought amongst education elites that self-esteem is more important than what they call rote knowledge (which includes basics such as grammar, knowing multiplication tables, geography, history, etc.).

So we graduate students who feel good about themselves but who cannot compute, cannot spell, and cannot function in society.

And, as a consequence of this deliberate act of malfeasance to the next generation, we then have employers stating that they need to hire people from China and India who can compute, spell, and function in society.

[xerxes]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

xerxes xerxes:

From what I understood, the idea is to create a school environment where the students aren't made to be the minority and are free from discrimination be it real or imagined.

Overall, the idea is to create an environment where the students can flourish in a place where they are immersed in their own culture.

So you support the notion of separate but equal, eh?

Of course not, but it's not like this is the first time something like this has been tried. There's a lot of schools that separate boys and girls and this isn't all that different.

If it makes you feel better, I don't think it's that good of an idea. The better alternative was the way it way in Toronto: afro-centric courses available in normal high school for those students who wanted that sort of educational environment but would still go to an integrated school.

[Brenda]

$1:

So we graduate students who feel good about themselves but who cannot compute, cannot spell, and cannot function in society.

Off topic, but shocking to me nonetheless: When my kids went to school in Holland, I was told by their teachers that spelling was not that important "because they have spell-check on the computers anyway". This means, that whenever they have to write a test or an essay, they will not be graded for the spelling

[xerxes]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Regina Regina:

I think you're right. Seems to me this is a surrender flag rather than anything else. Do they feel it's better to say you've passed high school than to have actually done it?

Yes, actually, they do. This is part of the touchy-feely ultra-liberal school of thought amongst education elites that self-esteem is more important than what they call rote knowledge (which includes basics such as grammar, knowing multiplication tables, geography, history, etc.).

So we graduate students who feel good about themselves but who cannot compute, cannot spell, and cannot function in society.

And, as a consequence of this deliberate act of malfeasance to the next generation, we then have employers stating that they need to hire people from China and India who can compute, spell, and function in society.

Just how do you define that they can't function in society? I agree with the two points before that one, but students today aren't completely anti-social engineering students....

[xerxes]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

So we graduate students who feel good about themselves but who cannot compute, cannot spell, and cannot function in society.

Off topic, but shocking to me nonetheless: When my kids went to school in Holland, I was told by their teachers that spelling was not that important "because they have spell-check on the computers anyway". This means, that whenever they have to write a test or an essay, they will not be graded for the spelling

You should have smacked them upside their heads for saying that.

[Arctic_Menace]

Man, this is so sad...

[Brenda]

xerxes xerxes:

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

So we graduate students who feel good about themselves but who cannot compute, cannot spell, and cannot function in society.

Off topic, but shocking to me nonetheless: When my kids went to school in Holland, I was told by their teachers that spelling was not that important "because they have spell-check on the computers anyway". This means, that whenever they have to write a test or an essay, they will not be graded for the spelling

You should have smacked them upside their heads for saying that.

Ministry of education rules...

And then they (the ministry) seriously complains that the kids going to the PABO (school for students to become teachers) are not able to really write or do math and need extra classes

I am SO glad my kids come home with a spelling test every week! It is the freakin most important thing!

[Regina]

When I was in high school we had to learn how to use a slide rule, yet calculators were not allowed to be used in math class. The only thing I ever used that thing for was for drawing a straight line when I couldn't find a ruler.

[martin14]

Regina Regina:

When I was in high school we had to learn how to use a slide rule, yet calculators were not allowed to be used in math class. The only thing I ever used that thing for was for drawing a straight line when I couldn't find a ruler.

oh man, how old are you??? Slide rules, my father used them.

we had calculators, but not for tests..


and speeling every week.. ... on purpose

[Regina]

martin14 martin14:

oh man, how old are you??? Slide rules, my father used them.

we had calculators, but not for tests..


and speeling every week.. ... on purpose

My high school pictures were carved in stone tablets.