[TattoodGirl]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Far be it from me to defend China, but how would Canadians feel if a Bloc/FLQ member went to China and was treated like royalty? They see the Dalai Lama as a separatist, not a religious figure (I guess that's why Communists are atheists).

I don't agree with China on this one, but I'm just being the devil's advocate here...

I wouldnt have a problem with it....Hell I might even pay for some to go on the promise they stay there

[Arctic_Menace]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Where's our new Chinese member? I'm curious what he'd have to say about this.

Probably imprisoned for talking to people(us at CKA) who were filling his head with "dangerous" ideas and stories.

[xerxes]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Xerxes

$1:

Hey China, know what else is disgusting? The fact that your air pollution is responsible for 40% of all birth defects in your country.

Edit: Here's the link for that stat if anyone is interested: Link

I'm still trying to figure out how the Summer Olympics can be conducted in near zero visibility. For example, archery will be an exciting event for the officials. Can't you see the runners in their respirators?

I'm half expecting the Chinese to forcibly have a million people waving fans at the smog to push it away from the Olympic venues.

That, or install legions of fans away from said Olympic venues.

[romanP]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

You know what will win the next election for Harper? If he drops the diplomatic niceties and tells China too "Fuck off!"

I think a public meeting with the Dalai Lama was his polite way of doing just that. Germany and the United States just did the same. A Chinese diplomat in Ottawa warned that there would be "consequences" without underlining what they would be.

This is good that our leaders are showing a bit of spine towards China, but I think we should do more. Maybe move the majority of our manufacturing back to our respective countries so that when the Chinese decide to invade, we won't be asking them to make guns for us too.

[Bodah]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Far be it from me to defend China, but how would Canadians feel if a Bloc/FLQ member went to China and was treated like royalty? ...

That's already kind of happen I believe it was De Gaull from France came over and said to Quebecers
"vive le Quebec Libre" English Canada hated that and Quebecers loved it, but its too bad Quebecer don't realize it was France that abandoned them in the late 1700's with the Treaty of Paris and decided to abandon their conquest for North America and focus on the islands of Guadeloupe .

[romanP]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Far be it from me to defend China, but how would Canadians feel if a Bloc/FLQ member went to China and was treated like royalty? They see the Dalai Lama as a separatist, not a religious figure (I guess that's why Communists are atheists).

What the Chinese government sees and what is reality are often two very different things. They consider Falun Gong or Falun Dafa to be a threat because its following is larger than the Chinese government, when all it is is a meditation technique.

As for your comparison of the Bloc Quebecois or the FLQ to the Dalai Lama, it is completely inaccurate. China invaded Tibet and declared it sovereign territory. The Dalai Lama's goal for Tibet is far less nationalistic and more in line with having Tibet defined as a sort of Chinese "island" state in the same
manner as Hong Kong, which is not really separatist at all, but also not what the Chinese government wants. The Dalai Lama's concerns for Tibet mostly have to do with the influx of Chinese outnumbering Tibetans and swallowing their language and culture.

[Arctic_Menace]

Actually Bodah, a lot of Quebecers realise that the French abandoned them and hate them for it. More than 80% of the people I met in Bagotville utterly despised the French...

[Bodah]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Actually Bodah, a lot of Quebecers realise that the French abandoned them and hate them for it. More than 80% of the people I met in Bagotville utterly despised the French...

Well since there's a base in Bagotville, that's not suprising.

[Arctic_Menace]

I'm talking about being surrounded by 140 kids my age from all over Quebec saying this stuff. Not the military officers.

[ridenrain]

I think bootlegga would be right if he took out Tibet and replaced it with Taiwan. Then again, if Quebec was as well organized, well governed and wealthy as Taiwan, they would already be running Canada.

[ShepherdsDog]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I think bootlegga would be right if he took out Tibet and replaced it with Taiwan. Then again, if Quebec was as well organized, well governed and wealthy as Taiwan, they would already be running Canada.

Who are you trying to kid here? Most of the wealth here in Taiwan was acquired through monopolies, that KMT supporters held until martial law ended in '87. The jokes that we are making today about Chinese products are the jokes people were making 20 years ago about Taiwanese exports.

Graft and corruption are an accepted way of doing business and always have been withn Chinese society and both are alive and well here in all levels of government. As for well governed...... Better governed then their Mainland counterparts may be a better way of putting it. There is still no rule of law here, although things are changing and remember the pace of Chinese change makes the rock cycle look downright fast.

[EyeBrock]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Actually Bodah, a lot of Quebecers realise that the French abandoned them and hate them for it. More than 80% of the people I met in Bagotville utterly despised the French...

This man knows his history.

You are so impressing me on many levels.

[OPP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

[BartSimpson]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Far be it from me to defend China, but how would Canadians feel if a Bloc/FLQ member went to China and was treated like royalty? They see the Dalai Lama as a separatist, not a religious figure (I guess that's why Communists are atheists).

I don't agree with China on this one, but I'm just being the devil's advocate here...

They'd feel the same way they feel when Bloc/FLQ members go to FRANCE and get treated like royalty.

[BartSimpson]

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

I'm not always a fan of unions, but Wal Mart is a perfect example of why they're needed.

FYI - I have not shopped at a Wal Mart since 2004 when I found out they were indirectly connected to the execution of a group of teenage girls in Tibet who had the sheer nerve to discuss Tibetan independence in school. I've posted the grisly pictures of those executions on this site before and since hearing about that atrocity and seeing the proof of it I've been unable to shop at Wal Mart which is now 30% of China's economy.

And were I to meet one of the Chinese soldiers who executed those little girls I doubt I could stop myself from attacking them with the absolute intent to kill them. They deserve to die and so do China's leaders for orchestrating this and who knows how many other atrocities.

And were a Wal Mart executive on fire I wouldn't piss on them to put it out.