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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:37 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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To say nothing about how oil extraction and processing, which aren't exactly an environmentally-friendly activities either.

FTFY. Hell you can say that about mining and processing of anything. Oil, steel, copper, lead or anything else you use on a daily basis.


That is Capitalism; internalize profit, externalize costs.


If you really want to see environmental devastation you need to enact socialism.

Nothing like a Five Year Plan to devastate things on a massive scale like the Aral Sea.


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I do believe that communism, aping the success of capitalism in once setting the Cuyahoga River on fire due to the amount of toxic flammable waste being dumped in it, also managed to set the Danube aflame a few times due to the same dumping practices that industry was engaging in Ohio. Two villainous sides of the same coin, as usual.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:47 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
I do believe that communism, aping the success of capitalism in once setting the Cuyahoga River on fire due to the amount of toxic flammable waste being dumped in it, also managed to set the Danube aflame a few times due to the same dumping practices that industry was engaging in Ohio. Two villainous sides of the same coin, as usual.


Yes, but we cleaned up our problems. The Soviets cleaned up anyone who talked about their problems. :idea:


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Well, the US put on a good act of cleaning things up but it's belied by the amount of money that still has to go into EPA Superfund sites. And there's still lots of streams and rivers where it's unsafe to eat the fish from because the riverbeds remain highly toxic due to the chemical dumping the old textile industry was doing. Never figured out the part where not poisoning the air/water/soil was such a horrible thing to expect from those dauntless and titanic captains of industry.

As for the commies, their hi-lite (next to Chernobyl and the Aral Sea) remains the Kyshtym region of Russia. Apparently there's a stretch of highway going through that area where stopping for a hundred kilometer stretch is forbidden due to the background radiation level still being dangerously high over sixty years after the disaster. Word was that they were dumping waste in ditches and when it rained the heat from the radiation turned the water to steam that carried the radioactive particulates over thousands and thousands of square miles. Good ol' Russian contempt for human life - it's a built-in feature of their way of life that transcends all politics.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:14 am
 


Let's not forget Putin recently testing his nuclear powered missiles, only to have them explode and contaminate a large portion of northern Russia.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:25 am
 


Novaya Zemlya too, where they did their above-ground nuclear weapons tests. Including the 50-megaton Tsar Bomba test, which melted the solid rock of several mountain faces to the point that it ran downhill like tar. Not wise to set foot there for the next 50000 years or so, until the radiation dies down to the point where your skin won't come sloughing off of your face while you're taking a hike.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:35 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The other issue is that every car fire involving an electric car is a hazmat event due to the heavy metals and toxic compounds like cyanide that are involved.
Great news! That means there is a lot of money to be made!

Any money-hungry grifters --- I mean, lawyers out there who want to team up chasing ambulances??? I will do the driving!


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And rescue work on gasoline cars was more complicated than in horse and buggies. Heck you didn’t even need firefighters for those. I guess we should have stuck with the buggies


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The new/ now old bumpers are a hazard. Car catches on fire and one side of the bomber activates from the heat and pushes the bumper our. Like a swinging metal arm. From what I was told by some firemen talking with me it broke some firefighters legs and even took a leg of one poor guy fighting a car fire.

They were telling me this when I lived in Dallas area and had been fighting a car fire at the job. Seems I got very lucky 8O


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:44 pm
 


Yeah ban electric cars and bring back the Ford Pinto.


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