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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:34 am
Unbelievable.... Pakistanis absolutely stand with you, Sri Lankans. We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE..... ....... A team of Pakistani forensic experts will leave for Sri Lanka to help Colombo authorities identify the victims of Easter explosions. At least 290 people were killed in a series of bomb blasts that tore through churches and luxury hotels in Sri Lanka on Sunday, in the worst violence to hit the island since its devastating civil war ended a decade ago. Related story: Explosion in Sri Lanka as police try to defuse bomb Eight apparently co-ordinated explosions targeted Easter worshippers and high end hotels popular with international guests. The University of Health Sciences had offered to help Sri Lankan authorities in identifying the victims. Sri Lanka accepted the offer and a team, led by Dr Humayun Taimoor, will leave for Colombo to assist the officials. https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/04/pakistani-forensic-experts-to-help-sri-lanka-identify-blast-victims/As usual...people over here getting idiots as if they were not already. One member said: Crusades will begin. He didn't remember Crusade when Iraq was invaded and thousands of Muslims civilians got killed in baseless brutal war. Relax...Crusades won't begin. That is one enough humiliation for Christians in history. I doubt they'll repeat that.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:47 am
Fighter Fighter: Unbelievable.... Pakistanis absolutely stand with you, Sri Lankans. We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE..... ....... A team of Pakistani forensic experts will leave for Sri Lanka to help Colombo authorities identify the victims of Easter explosions. At least 290 people were killed in a series of bomb blasts that tore through churches and luxury hotels in Sri Lanka on Sunday, in the worst violence to hit the island since its devastating civil war ended a decade ago. Related story: Explosion in Sri Lanka as police try to defuse bomb Eight apparently co-ordinated explosions targeted Easter worshippers and high end hotels popular with international guests. The University of Health Sciences had offered to help Sri Lankan authorities in identifying the victims. Sri Lanka accepted the offer and a team, led by Dr Humayun Taimoor, will leave for Colombo to assist the officials. https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/04/pakistani-forensic-experts-to-help-sri-lanka-identify-blast-victims/As usual...people over here getting idiots as if they were not already. One member said: Crusades will begin. He didn't remember Crusade when Iraq was invaded and thousands of Muslims civilians got killed in baseless brutal war. Relax...Crusades won't begin. That is one enough humiliation for Christians in history. I doubt they'll repeat that. I have a name. I remember another crusade where a bunch of cowards hijacked some planes and thousands of Innocent people died in a baseless and brutal cowardly attack. This also was a cowardly attack, as was the attacks in Paris, Nice, Amsterdam, Madrid, London, Mumbai, Sydney, Ottawa, San Bernidino, Moscow, Cairo, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Munich, and Bali amongst innumerable other cities around the globe. $1: “The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences.”
― Winston S. Churchill The consequence of the pandering and appeasement is the same as the last time we pandered and appeased; its war. You're not interested in policing these people so we'll do it for you... a great many will die because the moderates failed to speak; failed to act. For the record, the Crusades today would go a bit differently than the crusades of Thousand years ago. We didn't have the proper motivation then.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:07 pm
THE SRI LANKA JIHAD MASSACRE AND THE DECLINE OF THE WEST$1: Well over two hundred people are dead, and hundreds more injured, in jihad massacres in churches and hotels in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday morning, and now the usual denial and obfuscation are in full swing. I’m often asked, when I speak around the country, what it will take to wake people up to the nature and gravity of the jihad threat. For all too many people, the answer, as the Sri Lanka attacks abundantly show, is nothing.
The facts were clear enough, at least if one checked the Indian media. India’s News18.com reported that “two of the six attacks that rocked Sri Lanka this morning are reportedly to be have been carried out by suicide bombers,” that telltale sign that this was a jihad attack, with the bombers hoping to claim the Qur’an’s promise of Paradise for those who “kill and are killed” for Allah (9:111). “The attack at Shangri La hotel,” News18 continued, “was carried out by suicide bomber Zahran Hashim, while Abu Mohammad has been identified as the attacker at the Batticalao church.”
The Hindu, meanwhile, reported on another jihad suicide bomber, Mohamed Azzam Mohamed, who “waited patiently in a queue for the Easter Sunday breakfast buffet at Sri Lanka’s Cinnamon Grand hotel before setting off explosives strapped to his back.” Mohamed was “just about to be served when he set off his devastating strike in the packed restaurant, a manager at the Sri Lankan hotel said.”
What’s more, there was advance warning: AFP reported that “Sri Lanka’s police chief Pujuth Jayasundara issued an intelligence alert to top officers 10 days ago, warning that suicide bombers planned to hit ‘prominent churches’. ‘A foreign intelligence agency has reported that the NTJ (National Thowheeth Jama’ath) is planning to carry out suicide attacks targeting prominent churches as well as the Indian high commission in Colombo,’ the alert said. The NTJ is a radical Muslim group in Sri Lanka that was linked last year to the vandalisation of Buddhist statues.”
Nevertheless, the Roman Catholic Cardinal Archbishop of Colombo, Malcolm Ranjith, said: “It’s a very difficult and a very sad situation for all of us because we never expected such a thing to happen and especially on Easter Sunday.”
Did Jayasundara alert the “prominent churches,” or just the intelligence officers? If he did alert the churches, did Ranjith disregard the warning? We may never know the answers to those questions, but in a larger sense it is easy to see, despite escalating Muslim persecution of Christians worldwide, why Ranjith “never expected such a thing to happen,” and so had no guards at the churches for Easter Sunday: all those who have been for years calling attention to this threat have been branded as “racist,” “bigoted” and “Islamophobic,” and dismissed as “fearmongering.” Everyone in the Catholic Church knows that Islam is a religion of peace; dissenters are shunned and ostracized. Would it have been “Islamophobic” to have Sri Lankan churches guarded for Easter?
The establishment media in the West seemed determined to keep people as much in the dark as Ranjith was. The New York Times mentioned the jihad group that Jayasundara had warned about, but didn’t mention any of the names of the jihadis who had been identified in the Indian media. CNN didn’t mention either, and even claimed that “it’s not clear who’s behind the eight explosions that forced the country of 21 million people to go on lockdown.” Buzzfeed was completely mum about who might be behind the attacks. CBS noted a Sri Lankan official’s acknowledgment that “religious extremists,” of unidentified affiliation, were responsible. The BBC insisted that “it remains unclear who carried out the attacks.”
That coverage was representative of how the attacks were reported all over the West, and indicative of how all jihad attacks are covered. The identity and motive of the perpetrator are glossed over, downplayed, or ignored altogether. If that cannot be done, then the focus shifts to Muslims as victims, bracing for an “Islamophobic backlash” that seldom, actually materializes. In this case, the worst take came from Britain’s egregious Prime Minister Theresa May, whose initial response to the massacre was to tweet: “The acts of violence against churches and hotels in Sri Lanka are truly appalling.”
Yes, Ms. May, this was the work of anti-hotel and anti-church building zealots.
Britain’s Prime Minister can’t name the victims — Christians — for fear of offending the Muslim communities in the UK whose votes she desperately needs. For the same reason, she most certainly cannot mention the fact that many of the victims were celebrating Easter, or name the attackers, or explain the basis upon which they chose their targets.
Theresa May epitomizes the cowardice and pusillanimity of modern Western leaders. And that is why her country, and other nations of the West, are in such a precarious state. But it isn’t her fault. The overall response to the Sri Lanka jihad massacre shows why the West’s response to the global jihad is so wholly and comprehensively inadequate. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273545 ... rt-spencer
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:09 pm
$1: Blazing CatFur @Blazingcatfur 6h6 hours ago More The CBC has vowed to find the real white nationalists behind the Sri Lanka attack!
1 reply 5 retweets 30 likes Reply 1 Retweet 5 Like 30 https://twitter.com/TorontoCroatian/sta ... 4651801600
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:02 pm
$1: We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE.....
Please, you can't even eradicate the dogshit that swirls around in your own country. Until nations like Pakistan start to make a concerted effort to stamp out this disease... it will continue to operate, grow and commit crimes with impunity. You must combat the terror within your own nation, how can you help others if you can't help yourself?
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:08 pm
llama66 llama66: $1: We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE.....
Please, you can't even eradicate the dogshit that swirls around in your own country. Until nations like Pakistan start to make a concerted effort to stamp out this disease... it will continue to operate, grow and commit crimes with impunity. You must combat the terror within your own nation, how can you help others if you can't help yourself? Pakistan has come a long way since Obama visited back in 1980 when he was still Barry Soetoro.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:11 pm
I'd believe it, but they need to battle the terror on the home front if we're to rid ourselves of this scourge.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:36 pm
llama66 llama66: I'd believe it, but they need to battle the terror on the home front if we're to rid ourselves of this scourge. Concur. Especially given that Sri Lanka is indicating that the source of material and financial assistance for the Islamic terrorists came from that country wedged in between Iran, China, Afghanistan, and India.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:34 pm
Fighter Fighter: Unbelievable....
Pakistanis absolutely stand with you, Sri Lankans.
We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE.....
....... Can't speak for Sri Lanka but if I were them I'd pass. Here's why: Sri Lanka's Faustian bargain with Pakistan:
Exit LTTE, enter ISI$1: Wherever there is a terror attack, chances are you will find Pakistani fingerprints all over the place. From Times Square in New York to the streets of Kabul and of course across India, virtually every bombing can be traced back to the terror factories located in Peshawar, Bahawalpur or Karachi. Not surprisingly, the Easter blasts that killed hundreds in Sri Lanka have revealed a Pakistani connection. Among the suicide bombers was Zahran Hashim, an Islamist extremist imam, who is believed to have visited Pakistan in 2018.
Hashim was a demagogue for the National Thowheeth Jamaath, which was known in Sri Lanka for vandalising Buddhist statues, but has the larger aim of spreading global jehad. His speeches are straight out of the Islamic State's playbook, inciting Sri Lankan Muslims to attack Buddhists, Hindus and Christians.
Islamic terrorism in Sri Lanka seems counter intuitive because the country's less than 10 per cent Muslim minority has no beef with the 70 per cent Buddhist majority. To get to the root of Islamic terror in the island nation, one must understand the outlook of the Sri Lankan Muslim.
Decades before the Gulf sheikdoms and ISIS had started exporting the doctrine of jehad, Sri Lankan Muslims had become infected with the virus of fanaticism. Sabiha Hasan, a Karachi-based researcher, writes in Pakistan Horizon (Vol. 38, No. 2) that in the 1940s when Indian Muslims "demanded a separate homeland for themselves, Sri Lankan Muslims supported their struggle". Basically, Sri Lankan Muslims were supporting India's breakup despite having no skin in the game.
Instead of being wary about the extraterritorial loyalties of its Muslim population, Sri Lankan politicians went full-tilt chummy with the country that its Muslims identified strongly with - Pakistan. The heads of state of both Sri Lanka and Pakistan exchanged official visits. In 1954, Sri Lankan Prime Minister John Kotelawala said in Islamabad: "We were so close to each other. We should know each other better and try to help each other."
During the 1971 Bangladesh crisis, after India withdrew landing and overflight rights to Pakistan, Sri Lanka granted refuelling facilities to Pakistan International Airlines. In March-April 1971, as the Pakistan Army launched Operation Searchlight to crush the Bengali independence movement in East Pakistan, Pakistani civilian and military aircraft made 174 landings at the Katunayake international airport. While Sri Lanka denied these aircraft were ferrying soldiers or weapons, in reality they were purely military flights that transported thousands of heavily armed troops who killed three million Bengali citizens over the next eight months.
Ironically, as Pakistani military flights passed through Katunayake in April 1971, a contingent of Indian Army troops was guarding the airport during a communist insurgency that took 10,000 lives across Sri Lanka. Indian Navy warships were also deployed off Colombo to defend the port.
The bonhomie continued after the war. In December 1976, the Colombo Municipal Council named a public ground in the national capital as Jinnah Maidan.
War in the north
It was during the civil war involving the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) that the Pakistani military and its shadowy spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was able to develop close links with Sri Lanka's military. In May 2008, Lt. Gen Sarath Fonseka, the chief of the Sri Lanka Army visited Islamabad with a shopping list that included 22 tanks, hundreds of thousands of grenades and other weapons and ammunition. The deal was worth over $100 million. According to 'The News' of Pakistan, as part of the cooperation, PAF pilots participated in air strikes against LTTE bases in August 2008. Islamabad also positioned a group of Pakistan Army officers in Colombo to guide the Sri Lankan security forces in their operations.
According to Bahukutumbi Raman, who headed the counter terrorism division at the Research and Analysis Wing, Pakistan's military assistance took on an ominous turn in September 2003 after the unpublicised visit of General Mohammed Aziz Khan of the Pakistan Army to Colombo. Since the Indian policy was to defeat the LTTE - without overtly entering the conflict - New Delhi had never objected to the growing military ties between Sri Lanka and Pakistan, but Khan's secret visit upset Delhi. The Tamil Guardian says this was because Khan "had co-ordinated Pakistan's proxy war against India through various jehadi terrorist organisations" and "played an active role in the clandestine occupation of Indian territory in Kargil".
The Dawn newspaper reports that in 2011 the then Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari offered training to Sri Lankan police and intelligence agencies.
Exit LTTE, enter ISI
The ISI had for years been trying to get a foothold in Sri Lanka. Since it could not obviously get sympathisers among the country's Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, the spy agency's hope lay with the Muslim minority. However, the LTTE's dominance prevented outsiders from setting foot in these areas.
In fact, the LTTE had expelled most of the Sri Lankan Muslims from their coastal enclaves in the east, after the Tigers discovered they were collaborating with the government forces. Despite being condemned to second class status by the Sri Lankan constitution, the Muslim population - largely of Tamil origin - refused to join the Tamil struggle for equal rights. Their refusal to support the Tigers is reflected in Zahran Hashim's words: "The loyalty of Muslims should only be for the nation ruled by Muslims."
After the Sri Lankan security forces eliminated the LTTE with help from Pakistan, the field was safe for the ISI to move in. The long interaction between the Sri Lankan security forces and the free hand given to Pakistani military and spies no doubt allowed the ISI to develop contacts among the local Muslims once they returned to their eastern strongholds. According to Ceylon Today, the ISI has used the banned terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba and its charitable wing, the Idara Khidmat-e-Khalq, as proxies to radicalise Sri Lankan Muslims.
Madhura Seneviratne of Australia's government owned Special Broadcasting Service reveals Pakistan's motives: "Using Sri Lanka as a staging post, the ISI's primary and apparent objective is to encircle India from all sides. It wanted to use the island nation to access south India, both in terms of finding terror networks as well as for recruitment of cadres."
N. Manoharan of the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies explains why Sri Lanka has entered into a Faustian bargain with the jehadis in Pakistan: "Pakistan's activities in Sri Lanka have not been seen with suspicion by the security establishment of the island state. Sri Lanka-Pakistan relations have been good without any irritants. Sri Lanka is ever grateful to Pakistan for all the military support during the Eelam War. In addition, when Sri Lanka was hauled (up) by the international community for human rights excesses during that war, Islamabad rendered unstinted diplomatic support."
Clearly, despite the collapse of Sri Lanka's once vibrant economy due to the civil war, the Sinhala elites have learnt nothing. It was their Apartheid-like policies aimed at the Tamils that resulted in the rise of the LTTE. Now, their carte blanche to the ISI could spawn more Islamic terror groups like the National Thowheeth Jamaath which could send the country into another cycle of violence.
Threat to India
The ISI penetration of Sri Lanka presents a huge threat for India. In 2013, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) arrested two Sri Lankan Muslims, Mohammed Sakir Hussain and Suleman Hussain, and an Indian Tamil, Thameen Ansari, on charges of spying. All three confessed that their handlers were agents posted at the Pakistani High Commission in Colombo. In 2014, the NIA arrested a third Sri Lankan national named Arun Selvarajan in Chennai for spying on behalf of the ISI. Selvarajan's arrest indicates that Pakistan has been able to make inroads into peninsular India.
The ISI's Sri Lankan bureau has collected information on a large number of strategic assets in Tamil Nadu and its neighbouring states. Sri Lankan Muslims were able to easily blend into the local population and do the recce work for the Pakistanis. According to Manoharan, the ISI has already obtained data on critical assets including the Kalapakkam nuclear plant, NSG hub in Chennai, Coast Guard installations on the eastern coast, Officers Training Academy in Chennai, and the ports of Nagapattinam, Chennai, Ennore, Vizag and Kochi. "Going by the confessions of the arrestees, information gathering was meant for planning a terror attack," he says. "The first ever terror attack in Chennai in May (2014) was not unconnected to the larger ISI plot."
Checkmating the ISI
India must accept a large part of the blame for the mess in Sri Lanka. Firstly, by refusing to carve out an independent Tamil Eelam, New Delhi failed to protect the interests of the Sri Lankan Tamils. At the very least, it should have ensured an autonomous Tamil area in the North and East. For, if India could provide special status to J&K then why not provide the same to Sri Lankan Tamils who are more loyal to India than the Kashmiris.
Secondly, if India was prepared to sell out the Sri Lankan Tamils for larger strategic reasons, then it should have got a good value for the deal. Instead, it stood by as both Pakistan and China stepped into the vacuum created by the LTTE's downfall and India's exit. In fact, General Fonseka has gone on record that his country turned to China and Pakistan for military purchases only after New Delhi refused to supply weapons to it.
One way to retrieve the situation is to conduct a massive counter intelligence sweep that will dismantle the ISI network in Sri Lanka. India's advantage is that it still commands goodwill among the island's Tamils who can be relied upon to identify the jehadis. Also, Sri Lanka's cosiness with Pakistan can't be allowed to become a security threat for India. Just as the US won't allow the Russians to meddle in Mexico, India shouldn't permit Islamabad to buy influence in Colombo. First up, the islanders must be told they have to find alternate sources for their weapons and ammunition.
The Sinhala leadership must be reminded that while Sri Lanka is literally in India's backyard, it is thousands of miles from Pakistan. Colombo cannot fight local fires with water from distant shores.
(The author is a New Zealand-based defence and foreign affairs analyst) https://www.businesstoday.in/opinion/co ... 39389.html
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:43 pm
That aligns with the chatter I'm hearing that Sri Lanka officially asserts a Pakistani connection at an official level.
Unlikely to lead to a war but very likely to lead to severed diplomatic relations and a civil war against the local Muslim population who were not very popular to begin with what with desecrating everyone else's temples, churches, and etc.
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:53 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:54 pm
Why am I not suprised that one of nations that exports terror was behind this to some degree.
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Fighter
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:47 am
Will definitely get back on this....Can't allow nonsense to go unchecked. They are our great friends, always play cricket with us....Long history of cooperation we have....quite easy going and civilized folks. Pakistanis are feeling extremely sad be it our government or people. Hope bastards will be caught soon. Meanwhile....Khan offered sympathies. Such a situation that one day Khan congratulates and other day ......  20 April; Wishing all our Christian citizens a happy Easter. 21 April; Strongly condemn the horrific terrorist attack in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday, resulting in precious lives lost & hundreds injured. My profound condolences go to our Sri Lankan brethren. Pakistan stands in complete solidarity with Sri Lanka in their hour of grief. https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:20 am
That's nice he tweeted "Happy Easter". It couldn't be Pakistan, then. Oh wait... It just means Khan may not be a douche others are. Deeds, not words.
If Khan wants to show support, he'll root out the extremists in his government and make examples of them, but I think if he does that.. it's political suicide.
Tell me, what about the bloc of losers that wanted to kill Ms. Bibi, do you think they want Christians to have a happy Easter?
Fighter, you may not harbour ill-will towards Christians, but many in your country do (Not only in Pakistan, but every Muslim nation). Simply because some ass-backwards Imam has told them that the fictitious sky god wants people of your faith to kill or convert the non-believers. As long a morons believe these asshats are right, there will be violence.
Now, for these 300; some innocent Muslims somewhere else will die at the hands of a Christian who's had enough and this will continue until someone "takes it to the next level".
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:23 am
I read in the news that this now looks like retaliation for the New Zealand massacre.
Let's watch social media, and even places like here, continue to post their messages of hate and pretend like there aren't real world consequences.
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