[Robair]

Me too!

But Canada should not eliminate supply management until subsidized dairy no longer threatens to enter our country, as our dairy is not subsidized one red cent.

You first.

[peck420]

Trump wants barrier free trade.

Trump pulls out of every deal that will not accept draconian US trade barriers.

Seems legit.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

Trump wants barrier free trade.

Trump pulls out of every deal that will not accept draconian US trade barriers.

Seems legit.

Actually, he's promising reciprocal trade barriers for anyone unwilling to lower their barriers to US trade.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/24/trump-c ... riers.html

$1:

Trump demanded that all U.S. trading partners lower barriers, or be faced with reciprocal trade penalties.

Hard to argue that one.

[peck420]

He can promise to bend over and let you use his ass like your favourite hooker...what has he DONE?

He has cancelled any negotiations that will not accept a very draconian US trade barrier.

Until he changes that, I will take his word for what it is...horse shit.

[Zipperfish]

IMHO Trump has a point with this, frankly. I don't pretend to know a lot about agricultural subsidies, but the elimination of the Canadian Wheat Board didn't result in the zombie apocalypse. Other countries have weaned themselves off of dairy supply management without cataclysmic market failures.

There's an argument to be made for food security--most western governments consider food security through an agriculture sector big enough to feed the country, to be in the national interest. That's fair. But supply management to my mind, seems like policy overkill. Surely there's a way to attain food security without that level of market intervention.

[Robair]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

IMHO Trump has a point with this, frankly. I don't pretend to know a lot about agricultural subsidies, but the elimination of the Canadian Wheat Board didn't result in the zombie apocalypse.

I don't believe anybody predicted a zombie apocalypse. Everything we did predict, however, has come to fruition. Farmers are fucked. So is Churchill.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

But supply management to my mind, seems like policy overkill. Surely there's a way to attain food security without that level of market intervention.

The alternative is the US and European model. Taxpayers prop up the farmers.

Why anybody would choose that route between the two options is beyond me.

I'd rather pay what cheese actually costs. That way I can decide not to buy it.

Americans pay for every-bodies cheese. Even if they're lactose intolerant.

[Zipperfish]

Well I usually read your posts closely, since you seem to know what you're talking about with this kind of thing. So, assuming that I want a system that protects Canadian farmers, why can't we have something that protects farmers and allows American imports of dairy, wheat, etc?

[Zipperfish]

And what happened to Churchill?

[Robair]

That's what supply management does... ...this is all just a soundbite for Trump. Nothing more. It would do nothing to solve US dairy problems. Maybe not nothing, but so close to nothing it would be hard to measure. Meanwhile it would decimate ours, without some huge tax bailout and long term subsidies.

You see some idiots arguing that supply management just makes our cheese more expensive. They don't realize that without it, our taxes would be making up the difference. They'd be paying for it anyway.

[Robair]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

And what happened to Churchill?

The port closed and they are no longer connected to the mainland via a railroad... ...all due directly to harper turffing the wheat board.

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

You see some idiots arguing that supply management just makes our cheese more expensive.

When the price of cheese is so effin' high that smugglers find it more profitable than guns or drugs then the people saying this are not idiots.

[Robair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Robair Robair:

You see some idiots arguing that supply management just makes our cheese more expensive.

When the price of cheese is so effin' high that smugglers find it more profitable than guns or drugs then the people saying this are not idiots.

40% Bart.

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Robair Robair:

You see some idiots arguing that supply management just makes our cheese more expensive.

When the price of cheese is so effin' high that smugglers find it more profitable than guns or drugs then the people saying this are not idiots.

40% Bart.

Yep. So I can legally buy cheese in the USA and take it into Canada right past the drug sniffing dogs and then easily make 30% with very low cost or risk.

I'm in the wrong business.

[Robair]

Not sure how low the risk would be.... buy a refrigerated truck and give it a shot!

Let us know how it goes!

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

:lol: Not sure how low the risk would be.... buy a refrigerated truck and give it a shot!

Let us know how it goes!

Given that I once drove across the border with several precision tactical rifles and wasn't even bothered with any questions about them I suspect that the cheese business might work out.

Note that the rifles were for one of your law enforcement agencies and all of my paperwork was in order. But when they didn't ask I didn't bother telling them and then inviting myself to spending three or four hours as they validated everything.