[herbie]

My Dad used to put chains on to drive us up the mountain to ski too. And I used them last to pull another truck up to a mountaintop radio site. NFG for highways, you'd be going 50kmh and every other knob on the road would still be trying to do 120.

Got studded snowies on an AWD Vue, and snowflake tires on the Wrangler (in case I want to see how much gas I can gobble). It's cold enough here ice is sticky and snow crunches like styrofoam. But I mostly avoid travel when the weather sucks now, between the dickheads that won't slow down and the rigs that blow so much snow you can't see shit, it can wait.
Had an incident like Robair's in a Bronco my fist trip up north - only the faintest curve in the road and ended up doing triple 360s. Kids were like Yahhoooo! I almost shit myself, and I thought the wife was having a heart attack!

[herbie]

BTW shit snowies can make it worse. Pressure goes down in the cold, thin sidewalls on cheap radials make them roll and off you go - on snow or gravel.
10 ply sidewalls sell like crazy here.

[Robair]

[Robair]

herbie herbie:

Kids were like Yahhoooo! I almost shit myself, and I thought the wife was having a heart attack!

[herbie]

Had a couple other driving w the kids in the snow incidents that were 'don't you EVER tell Mom' moments...

[xerxes]

Well a good chunk of the Fraser Valley is in the dark tonight thanks to downed power lines. And Chilieack is getting a lot of snow too.

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Robair Robair:

Drove hwy 97 from Vernon to Penticton. Do not advise it!
We were in my wife's fwd Ford Flex. Was spinning out a bit going up hills, could feel the back tires break loose a bit on a couple of corners, not a big deal. Then on the last straightaway before Penticton, right down by the lake, the car completely lost contact with ashphalt for what must have been at least 50 yards. Quite the sensation! Was doing 70km/h, didn't move either foot, very tiny slow moves on the steering wheel, not sure I even breathed. If the car had touched one little lump of ice I'm sure it would have sent us spinning. Don't go anywhwere unless you have to.

You need a set of tire chains.

https://www.etrailer.com/vm/Ford/Flex/chains

You also need to slow down because the laws of physics also apply to FWD and 4WD vehicles.

I don't know why Americans all seem to think everyone needs to use tire chains - a good set of winter tires works perfectly fine. I've used them for a decade and never had an accident in winter with them. Before that, I used all-seasons and drove for 15 or years and never had an accident in winter either.

The best tool to use in winter weather is your brain. Drive to the conditions...just because the speed limit says 100 km/h, does NOT mean it's always safe to do so.

[herbie]

Cuz they'd shit shelling out $1400 for a set of snowies?

[Tricks]

bootlegga bootlegga:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Robair Robair:

Drove hwy 97 from Vernon to Penticton. Do not advise it!
We were in my wife's fwd Ford Flex. Was spinning out a bit going up hills, could feel the back tires break loose a bit on a couple of corners, not a big deal. Then on the last straightaway before Penticton, right down by the lake, the car completely lost contact with ashphalt for what must have been at least 50 yards. Quite the sensation! Was doing 70km/h, didn't move either foot, very tiny slow moves on the steering wheel, not sure I even breathed. If the car had touched one little lump of ice I'm sure it would have sent us spinning. Don't go anywhwere unless you have to.

You need a set of tire chains.

https://www.etrailer.com/vm/Ford/Flex/chains

You also need to slow down because the laws of physics also apply to FWD and 4WD vehicles.

I don't know why Americans all seem to think everyone needs to use tire chains - a good set of winter tires works perfectly fine. I've used them for a decade and never had an accident in winter with them. Before that, I used all-seasons and drove for 15 or years and never had an accident in winter either.

The best tool to use in winter weather is your brain. Drive to the conditions...just because the speed limit says 100 km/h, does NOT mean it's always safe to do so.

Because Americans don't know how to drive in snow. Plus, tire chains are regulated across the country, from banning them to being charged any damages done to roads.

[2Cdo]

$1:

Because Americans don't know how to drive in snow.

Have you watched any Canadian drivers lately? The average Canadian driver also has no clue how to drive in winter conditions. Pretending that we are somehow superior drivers during the winter months than Americans is silly.

[housewife]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

$1:

Because Americans don't know how to drive in snow.

Have you watched any Canadian drivers lately? The average Canadian driver also has no clue how to drive in winter conditions. Pretending that we are somehow superior drivers during the winter months than Americans is silly.

Couldn’t agree more. Had to watch it last night. Hit slushy icy roads on the 400 just north of Vaughn lots of people going too fast and not leaving enough room to stop. When you can’t tell where your lane is slow down!

[Tricks]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

$1:

Because Americans don't know how to drive in snow.

Have you watched any Canadian drivers lately? The average Canadian driver also has no clue how to drive in winter conditions. Pretending that we are somehow superior drivers during the winter months than Americans is silly.

Are you sure they're actually Canadian?

And for Northern states, sure, but can you honestly tell me you'd expect someone from Florida to have any idea how to drive in snow?

[raydan]

Most people who can't drive on snow, can't drive on dry asphalt either.

[Tricks]

I'd also like to point out, that despite our worse weather than half the country, we have by every metric less traffic-related deaths than the U.S. So statistically, we are better drivers.

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

... a good set of winter tires works perfectly fine. I've used them for a decade and never had an accident in winter with them. Before that, I used all-seasons and drove for 15 or years and never had an accident in winter either.

The best tool to use in winter weather is your brain. Drive to the conditions...just because the speed limit says 100 km/h, does NOT mean it's always safe to do so.

When racing cars on a frozen lake, there are several classes of tire that are allowed under WCMA rules. The Bridgestone "Blizzack" and any other studded winter tires with siping. I can tell you, there is little difference between traction in the two types of tires, and most people go for the Blizzacks because they are cheaper that getting a tire siped and studded.

"All seasons" Let's just refer to the old saw "Jack of all trades; master of none". That's an all season tire, or rather a 'no season' tire.

But yes, the most important nut in the vehicle is the one behind the wheel.