[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

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What's the point? You all have solved the case already despite nothing in the article saying this was some kind of religious attack. You all read the guy's name and stopped readingstarted foaming.

Well, his name sounds Muslim, so it must be a religiously motivated attack, unlike when non-Muslims attack women.

He's a student from Saudi Arabia. He is therefore a Muslim.

[housewife]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

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Friends told CTV that they were surprised by the charges laid against Almestadi, who they described as being polite.

"We talked and he was really nice, friendly," said student Josh Bian, who said he knew the suspect.

"We actually had a lot of conversations together. I didn't think there was anything really wrong with him."

Exactly. The problem with Muslims is you don't know what's going to set them off or when their religion is going to demand that they behead an infidel.

Notice the student quoted is male. I don't doubt that he seemed ok to an other male.

[ShepherdsDog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

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What's the point? You all have solved the case already despite nothing in the article saying this was some kind of religious attack. You all read the guy's name and stopped readingstarted foaming.

Well, his name sounds Muslim, so it must be a religiously motivated attack, unlike when non-Muslims attack women.

He's a student from Saudi Arabia. He is therefore a Muslim.

He could be one of them there Cuban Eritreans.

[xerxes]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

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What's the point? You all have solved the case already despite nothing in the article saying this was some kind of religious attack. You all read the guy's name and stopped readingstarted foaming.

Well, his name sounds Muslim, so it must be a religiously motivated attack, unlike when non-Muslims attack women.

He's a student from Saudi Arabia. He is therefore a Muslim.

But there's also nothing that suggests this is something terroristical. The article says the two knew each other so this could have been a disagreement that got out of hand or something else.

[andyt]

xerxes xerxes:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

Well, his name sounds Muslim, so it must be a religiously motivated attack, unlike when non-Muslims attack women.

He's a student from Saudi Arabia. He is therefore a Muslim.

But there's also nothing that suggests this is something terroristical. The article says the two knew each other so this could have been a disagreement that got out of hand or something else.

You really don't get it, do you? When a Muslim attacks a woman it's because his religion tells him to. So they are all potential attackers, When a non-Muslim does it, it's just an aberration of our otherwise peaceful and gentle society. Muslim = religious motivation/cornspiracy, non-Muslim = lone wolf.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

You really don't get it, do you? When a Muslim attacks a woman it's because his religion tells him to. So they are all potential attackers, When a non-Muslim does it, it's just an aberration of our otherwise peaceful and gentle society. Muslim = religious motivation/cornspiracy, non-Muslim = lone wolf.

You really don't get it, do you? Muslims are not the peaceful little pets you'd like to think they are.

[N_Fiddledog]

Islamism is misogynistic. That expresses itself, among other places, in the Sharia. Saudi Arabia is a Sharia country. Islam is a supremacist ideology. At its core the belief goes like this -

Believer = Good

Non-believer = Bad.

So when you put that together with a multitude of similar cases motivated by a common cause of Islamism, it's just common sense to suspect the possibility, perhaps probability an Islamic spark will most likely be behind the beating of a female kafir by a follower of the warlord Mohammed.

Ignoring that possibility probability is this thing those of us with open eyes refer to as "dumb."

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Islamism is misogynistic. That expresses itself, among other places, in the Sharia. Saudi Arabia is a Sharia country. Islam is a supremacist ideology. At its core the belief goes like this -

Believer = Good

Non-believer = Bad.

So when you put that together with a multitude of similar cases motivated by a common cause of Islamism, it's just common sense to suspect the possibility, perhaps probability an Islamic spark will most likely be behind the beating of a female kafir by a follower of the warlord Mohammed.

Ignoring that possibility probability is this thing those of us with open eyes refer to as "dumb."

It would no doubt come as a surprise to Andy that actual Nazis don't like Jews.

[xerxes]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Islamism is misogynistic. That expresses itself, among other places, in the Sharia. Saudi Arabia is a Sharia country. Islam is a supremacist ideology. At its core the belief goes like this -

Believer = Good

Non-believer = Bad.

So when you put that together with a multitude of similar cases motivated by a common cause of Islamism, it's just common sense to suspect the possibility, perhaps probability an Islamic spark will most likely be behind the beating of a female kafir by a follower of the warlord Mohammed.

Ignoring that possibility probability is this thing those of us with open eyes refer to as "dumb."

All of the Abrahamic religions are misogynistic. There'sa reason the ultra Orthodox Jews drape more carpets over their womens' heads than the taliban do. And there's a reason that Eve, not Adam, is responsible for the fall of man.

Islamic fundamentalists don't have a monopoly on woman hatred.

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

Islamic fundamentalists don't have a monopoly on woman hatred.

These days they may not have a monopoly on hating women but they've certainly cornered the market on it.

[andyt]

Man who came to the rescue of fellow student slams racist response to UBC attack

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news ... ubc-attack

[Thanos]

We weren't attacking his race. We were attacking his sewer of a culture and religion.

[N_Fiddledog]

xerxes xerxes:

All of the Abrahamic religions are misogynistic.

Not exactly. They all have misogynistic passages. And it's not just Abrahamic religions.

My proposal is misogyny can currently be seen to be institutionalized from the texts of Islam the religion into the law, society and culture of Islam in the current world.

I'll tell you what. You want to tell me two wrongs make a who cares. Somewhere in the Bible some passage demeans women. Somewhere in the Koran some passage lays them low. Therefore, who cares, right? Potayto, Potatto.

That's wrong on multiple levels but first show me how it's even correct. Show me we're talking about the same thing.

Let's use a simple concept to start. We'll use these.

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Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176)

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Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."

Find me the biblical equivalent.

That was the easy bit. Now show me the Christian equivalent of this.

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Countries where in some cases a woman's testimony is worth half of that of a man:

Algeria (in criminal cases)[19]
Bahrain (in Sharia courts)[20]
Egypt (in family courts)[21]
Iran (in most cases)[22]
Iraq (in some cases)[23]
Jordan (in Sharia courts)[24]
Kuwait (in family courts)[25]
Libya (in some cases)[26]
Morocco (in family cases)[27]
Palestine (in cases related to marriage, divorce and child custody)[28]
Qatar (in family law matters)[29]
Saudi Arabia[30]
Syria (in Sharia courts)[31]
United Arab Emirates (in some civil matters)[32]
Yemen (not allowed to testify at all in cases of adultery and retribution)[33]

See cause if you can't give me the specific Christian equivalent of this in our current world you're speaking the language of false equivalence. It's worthless.

I'm saying the misogyny of Mohamed is observably passed into the day to day communal life or society of regions of the real world we currently live in. Again, this is current. Show me a law evolving out of a Judaeo-Christian moral view that says something like a woman has to present 4 male witnesses to lay a charge of rape or she does time for adultery. Show me it in today's world. I can give examples Islamic societies of today where this happens in their Sharia courts.

Stop pretending all religions and cultures are the same. They're not.