[ShepherdsDog]

Mad Mulcair wants to make it NDP platform policy in the next election campaign to abolish the senate

[Unsound]

Man, the next election just looks more and more like it's gonna be hard for me to choose. Do I vote Liberal for the weed? or NDP for the senate abolition? Or CPC for... I dunno, can't remember why I've voted for them in the past. \I think it may have been the openness and transparency they were promising...

I hope the rhinos have a candidate in my riding.

[Canadian_Mind]

Instead of abolishing the senate, could it just be made a policy that, as the senators retire or die, that no more are appointed in their place? And upon such time as there is no one left in the senate, declare it a defunct entity and scrap it then?

[Unsound]

That would require a lot of will on the part of successive governments. I have a hard time picturing it, of any party.

[bootlegga]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

bootlegga bootlegga:

But if you want to make it a partisan issue, at least he paid his debt out of his own pocket, unlike Duffy who had to go begging to the PMO office for help.

He didn't pay the debt out of his own pocket. All the money he paid back was loans from other people.

$1:

Mr. Harb had previously taken out a loan from an Ottawa businessman’s company to pay for legal costs. He took out another loan, of an unspecified amount, to help pay the final $180,166.17, his lawyer said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e13951706/

Harb has to pay that loan back, so it is his money. Had it not been discovered, who knows whether or not Duffy would have ever had to pay anything back to Wright.

Harb didn't need to rely on a favour - he manned up and took care of the cost of his expenses himself.

Big difference in my books.

[Lemmy]

There is no difference between any of them in my books....except that one of the four has had the decency to resign. I want all four of them to just disappear. And I bet that number will be greater than four by the time this whole business shakes down.

[bootlegga]

Lemmy Lemmy:

There is no difference between any of them in my books....except that one of the four has had the decency to resign. I want all four of them to just disappear. And I bet that number will be greater than four by the time this whole business shakes down.

Agreed - as I said on the first page.

However, one of the four at least had the balls to won up and pay for it himself and resign, the others have not.

[Freakinoldguy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Lemmy Lemmy:

There is no difference between any of them in my books....except that one of the four has had the decency to resign. I want all four of them to just disappear. And I bet that number will be greater than four by the time this whole business shakes down.

Agreed - as I said on the first page.

However, one of the four at least had the balls to won up and pay for it himself and resign, the others have not.

Balls to resign.

The prick resigned and stands to make over $5 million dollars during the life of his pension. A pension that may I add shouldn't be paid because of his criminal activity.

$1:

Harb qualifies for full pension

Harb, who was the MP for Ottawa Centre for 15 years until he was appointed to the Senate in 2003, maxed out on his parliamentary pension in 2007. He was also a city councillor in Ottawa prior to becoming an MP.

A spokesman for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation says Harb can collect his full MP pension immediately. That's worth $122,989 a year and is fully indexed, Gregory Thomas told CBC News.

The pension over Harb's lifetime could be worth "$5,020,790... assuming living [until] age 90 which is average life span of pension plan members. In the event of his passing, his surviving spouse will collect 60 per cent of his pension for life, which is not included in this calculation," Thomas wrote in an email.

What a magnanimous gesture on his part but, before we beatify Marc Harb perhaps we should really look at the most likely reason for his largess. Even more taxpayers money. Money that neither Wallin or Duffy will get should they resign because of their less than 4 year tenure in the House of Sober Second Thought.

What a joke.

[OnTheIce]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Harb has to pay that loan back, so it is his money. Had it not been discovered, who knows whether or not Duffy would have ever had to pay anything back to Wright.

Harb didn't need to rely on a favour - he manned up and took care of the cost of his expenses himself.

Big difference in my books.

Oh come on boots!

A loan is a loan. They both received favours from friends to get the money to pay back their misdeeds.

Amazing how'll you look to paint the worst offender as some sort of saint because he borrowed his money differently than the others. No partisanship here.

[jj2424]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Harb has to pay that loan back, so it is his money. Had it not been discovered, who knows whether or not Duffy would have ever had to pay anything back to Wright.

Harb didn't need to rely on a favour - he manned up and took care of the cost of his expenses himself.

Big difference in my books.

Liberal books..require one to put on rose coloured glasses before reading.

[ShepherdsDog]

He's as guilty as Duffy....pretending otherwise clearly demonstrates a political bias.

[Jabberwalker]

Unsound Unsound:

Man, the next election just looks more and more like it's gonna be hard for me to choose. Do I vote Liberal for the weed? or NDP for the senate abolition? Or CPC for... I dunno, can't remember why I've voted for them in the past. \I think it may have been the openness and transparency they were promising...

I hope the rhinos have a candidate in my riding.

Vote for yourself: "The Party of the First Part".

[jj2424]

The real reason why he resigned.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... e13992768/

Senate loophole lets senators keep pensions despite conviction .

"



As the rules stand, Mac Harb’s retirement from the Senate this week ensured his lucrative government pension will last as long as he does – even if an RCMP investigation into his alleged spending violations leads to serious charges, a conviction and a prison term.

Senators who are convicted of an indictable offence can be ejected from the Senate and lose their parliamentary pensions. But if they resign before that happens, they are entitled to all of the benefits they have accrued."


his lawyer told him to take the money and run!

[Zipperfish]

He's entitled to his entitlements.

[PluggyRug]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

He's entitled to his entitlements.

It used to be only the titled were entitled to their entitlements. Now the untitled are entitled to their entitlements.